Random Political Thread

Comments and discussion on any and all topics.
User avatar
Jif
Jimmy Jams
Posts: 6894
Joined: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:49 am

Re: Random Political Thread

Postby Jif » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:52 am

this week we found out that the tens of thousands of “navigators” hired by the government to enroll people in Obamacare will include convicted felons.

Despite some “navigators” having already been exposed as having arrest warrants against them, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) has no plans to screen out the criminals. (But rest assured: If your identity is stolen as a result of trying to sign up for Obamacare, no one will be more upset about it than President Obama.)

Maybe it’s a blessing that the Obamacare website has crashed more often than the Soviet Union’s commercial air fleet did.

In addition to convicted felons, navigators are drawn from labor unions, community organizers, former ACORN staffers and front-groups for the Democratic National Committee.

Call right up and give all your private financial and medical information to those guys! What could go wrong? (Before Obamacare was even online, Minnesota’s health exchange emailed the Social Security numbers and other identifying information for about 2,400 Americans to a man applying to be a “navigator.”)

If you call today, you can sign up for Obamacare plus learn about a Nigerian prince in exile who’s willing to share his vast inheritance with you in exchange for your bank account numbers.

Which reminds me, federal health insurance programs have long been a prime target for scammers and con artists.

To much fanfare, in 2006 Medicare announced that only 7 percent of its payments were a result of fraud. Two years later, The New York Times reported that it was actually 31.5 percent — and that Medicare had aggressively hidden the fraud from outside auditors.

Do you think a privately run insurance company would take three years to notice that one-third of its payouts had been obtained by fraud? But with federal programs, there’s a powerful incentive not to look for fraud. That would merely vindicate critics of big government!

In 2012, Medicare’s crack investigators noticed that more than a billion dollars in home health care payments for 2008 had gone to one single county in Florida — more than all such payments made to the rest of the entire country.

Do you think it would take five years for a private insurer to figure out it had been scammed out of $1 billion by a few health care professionals in one county? Anyone else would notice being stolen from, but not the government. It’s not their money.

User avatar
dun dun dun... chips
Papes
Posts: 3287
Joined: Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:08 pm
Location: WOOOOOO
Contact:

Re: Random Political Thread

Postby dun dun dun... chips » Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:00 pm

Jif wrote:
this week we found out that the tens of thousands of “navigators” hired by the government to enroll people in Obamacare will include convicted felons.

Despite some “navigators” having already been exposed as having arrest warrants against them, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) has no plans to screen out the criminals. (But rest assured: If your identity is stolen as a result of trying to sign up for Obamacare, no one will be more upset about it than President Obama.)

Maybe it’s a blessing that the Obamacare website has crashed more often than the Soviet Union’s commercial air fleet did.

In addition to convicted felons, navigators are drawn from labor unions, community organizers, former ACORN staffers and front-groups for the Democratic National Committee.

Call right up and give all your private financial and medical information to those guys! What could go wrong? (Before Obamacare was even online, Minnesota’s health exchange emailed the Social Security numbers and other identifying information for about 2,400 Americans to a man applying to be a “navigator.”)

If you call today, you can sign up for Obamacare plus learn about a Nigerian prince in exile who’s willing to share his vast inheritance with you in exchange for your bank account numbers.

Which reminds me, federal health insurance programs have long been a prime target for scammers and con artists.

To much fanfare, in 2006 Medicare announced that only 7 percent of its payments were a result of fraud. Two years later, The New York Times reported that it was actually 31.5 percent — and that Medicare had aggressively hidden the fraud from outside auditors.

Do you think a privately run insurance company would take three years to notice that one-third of its payouts had been obtained by fraud? But with federal programs, there’s a powerful incentive not to look for fraud. That would merely vindicate critics of big government!

In 2012, Medicare’s crack investigators noticed that more than a billion dollars in home health care payments for 2008 had gone to one single county in Florida — more than all such payments made to the rest of the entire country.

Do you think it would take five years for a private insurer to figure out it had been scammed out of $1 billion by a few health care professionals in one county? Anyone else would notice being stolen from, but not the government. It’s not their money.

political opinions aside, i dont understand the point of this article. seems like a bunch of bullshit rial-people-up/scare tactics to me. there isnt a solid fact in the entire thing about the point of the article (obamacare), only motions to compare it to previous problem/other situations.
Image

User avatar
Jif
Jimmy Jams
Posts: 6894
Joined: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:49 am

Re: Random Political Thread

Postby Jif » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:12 pm

dun dun dun... chips wrote:
Jif wrote:
this week we found out that the tens of thousands of “navigators” hired by the government to enroll people in Obamacare will include convicted felons.

Despite some “navigators” having already been exposed as having arrest warrants against them, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) has no plans to screen out the criminals. (But rest assured: If your identity is stolen as a result of trying to sign up for Obamacare, no one will be more upset about it than President Obama.)

Maybe it’s a blessing that the Obamacare website has crashed more often than the Soviet Union’s commercial air fleet did.

In addition to convicted felons, navigators are drawn from labor unions, community organizers, former ACORN staffers and front-groups for the Democratic National Committee.

Call right up and give all your private financial and medical information to those guys! What could go wrong? (Before Obamacare was even online, Minnesota’s health exchange emailed the Social Security numbers and other identifying information for about 2,400 Americans to a man applying to be a “navigator.”)

If you call today, you can sign up for Obamacare plus learn about a Nigerian prince in exile who’s willing to share his vast inheritance with you in exchange for your bank account numbers.

Which reminds me, federal health insurance programs have long been a prime target for scammers and con artists.

To much fanfare, in 2006 Medicare announced that only 7 percent of its payments were a result of fraud. Two years later, The New York Times reported that it was actually 31.5 percent — and that Medicare had aggressively hidden the fraud from outside auditors.

Do you think a privately run insurance company would take three years to notice that one-third of its payouts had been obtained by fraud? But with federal programs, there’s a powerful incentive not to look for fraud. That would merely vindicate critics of big government!

In 2012, Medicare’s crack investigators noticed that more than a billion dollars in home health care payments for 2008 had gone to one single county in Florida — more than all such payments made to the rest of the entire country.

Do you think it would take five years for a private insurer to figure out it had been scammed out of $1 billion by a few health care professionals in one county? Anyone else would notice being stolen from, but not the government. It’s not their money.

political opinions aside, i dont understand the point of this article. seems like a bunch of bullshit rial-people-up/scare tactics to me. there isnt a solid fact in the entire thing about the point of the article (obamacare), only motions to compare it to previous problem/other situations.


Obamacare Navigators are supposed to help you fill out your Obamacare application. It's been shown repeatedly and by dozens of news outlets that much of the grants doled out to fund this program are going to some pretty shady people. Medicare is brought up as a comparison showing how much fraud is already present in Federal health insurance programs that will only be magnified by the size and scope of Obamacare. thousands of Navigators will potentially have access to your financial and personal information. Thousands of government officials will have access. private companies contracted through Obamacare will have access. Obamacare will be the single biggest depository of personal information in the world, and thousands of people will have access to large portions of it. The government is already completely incompetent. Giving them access to this kind of information and money is a recipe for disaster. Remember, the entire monstrosity is administered by HHS yet is enforced by the IRS. The company in charge of creating the website and infrastructure is Canadian and employs thousands of people. Your information will be out there for a LOT of people to access in dozens of ways spanning most of north america. Like i said, it will be the largest database of US citizen personal information. I trust the government with my info about as far as I can throw nancy pelosi.

Also, there was a video released this month by a conservative group, Project Veritas, that went undercover and captured Navigators telling people to lie on their applications, even admitting to lying on their own applications.

User avatar
Jif
Jimmy Jams
Posts: 6894
Joined: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:49 am

Re: Random Political Thread

Postby Jif » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:53 pm


User avatar
Jif
Jimmy Jams
Posts: 6894
Joined: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:49 am

Re: Random Political Thread

Postby Jif » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:52 pm

Gibson Guitar creates ‘Government Series’ with disputed wood

http://watchdog.org/128027/tns-gibson-g ... uted-wood/

I remember posting the original news article about this 2+ years ago. Apparently Gibson settled with the federal government and is selling guitars using their "illegal" wood marketed as their "government series". I'm not a conspiracy theorist at all, but with the completely blatant and widespread targeting of tea party groups by the IRS there is almost no doubt in my mind that Gibson was targeted for this raid because of their outspokenly conservative CEO.

Martin admits to importing the same exact wood, from the same region in India, from the same company, but was never even investigated. The CEO of Martin is an outspoken liberal. Under any other President and administration the politics of the CEOs wouldn't even have been brought up, but the targeting of conservative groups and companies under Obama has been rampant and completely obvious.

And if Gibson were illegally importing this wood, it 1- would have been through clerical errors, and 2- under no circumstances would law enforcement officers even have been needed. It would have been 10 balding white dudes in suits and white dress shirts taking inventory of and confiscating Gibson's wood. The "SWAT", or whatever law enforcement were present, were there entirely to scare Gibson.

This is Chicago politics, straight out of Saul Alinsky.

User avatar
Jif
Jimmy Jams
Posts: 6894
Joined: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:49 am

Re: Random Political Thread

Postby Jif » Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:45 am

Half of all Obamacare applications that granted subsidies to the filers contained inaccurate data or fraud:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/ ... story.html

User avatar
Darkfoxx
Site Admin
Posts: 9651
Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:09 pm
Location: Alexandria, VA
Contact:

Re: Random Political Thread

Postby Darkfoxx » Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:44 am

Jif wrote:Half of all Obamacare applications that granted subsidies to the filers contained inaccurate data or fraud:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/ ... story.html

Sounds about right.
Gaming:
Image
Workstation:
Image


Return to “General Discussion”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest