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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Sonic » Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:49 pm

Darkfoxx wrote:Good things take time.


Like a good BBQ'd brisket

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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Darkfoxx » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:52 pm

Sonic wrote:
Darkfoxx wrote:Good things take time.


Like a good BBQ'd brisket

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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Jif » Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:42 pm

i prefer "Sunday - Tuesday means all unowned players will be placed on waivers at 10:00am PT each Sunday with the claim period ending at 11:59pm PT on Tuesday." BUT would consider Game Time IF, and ONLY IF, FAs under this waiver system all come off waivers a tthe same time regardless of when their game started (Tues afternoon). The quote from Justin doesnt mention when FAs in the Game Time system come off waivers.

This puts all FAs on waivers but still allows you to drop/add normally during/after thursday and the super-early sunday morning london games. I strongly believe all unclaimed free agents should be available at exactly the same time: Tuesday afternoon.

Note that this system does not remove dropped players' waiver period or automatically make them available at the same time as unclaimed free agents. they would still have the typical dropped player waiver period or 3 days or whatever we have it set to.

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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Darkfoxx » Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:01 pm

I sent out a poll for everyone to fill out. I think it's a great way to gauge opinions since we're a few weeks into the season already.

I used the Yahoo league email blast thing, but if you didn't get it for some reason, here is the poll:
http://thestoleneye.com/tools/survey/in ... sid=463423
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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Fist of the eskimo » Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:22 pm

I voiced my opinion during the poll but I'll post here as well as I'm not sure everyone sees the poll.

I do not think that we should implement the waiver wire system Sun-Tues, as it isn't fair to people that are putting in the work during the games on the weekend. If I'm sitting at home watching games on Sunday and on my phone, or laptop at the same time watching highlights or checking stats on players during other games am I not a good manager; this compared to someone who sets their roster on Sunday, watches highlights Monday night and maybe reads a rotoworld or yahoo article and then they're able to pick up a player that I'm not able to because everyone gets an equal opportunity?

This seems like it's penalizing me as a manager for paying attention to my team, watching for injuries and being proactive about the next week when the other guy isn't wanting to manage his team as much as I do. I have put more work into these last 5 weeks of fantasy football than I have I have in the past 3 years only because of the fact that it's a PAY league. If someone was to come along and snag Karlos Williams from me when I knew DeSean was injured 2 days after the fact just because he happened to come across it on an article or watched highlights then I'd be pissed because I would feel robbed.

The purpose of a Waiver to me was that if you wanted someone badly that another team dropped then you should have to be placed on waivers for him. If I was away from my phone for a few hours and noticed that someone was dropped and then immediately picked up by another team then I would feel robbed as well as I didn't have a chance to pick him up. This is different from my above arguement in that the player in question was previously on another team and hence valued by another team at some point. The pickups on Sunday-Tuesday are for players that were already Free Agents and not of enough value for someone to pick them up for a game.

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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Fist of the eskimo » Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:40 pm

What's peoples thoughts on increasing bench size next season?

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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Bacon » Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:17 am

maybe by just one spot . though since we only have 10 people it will lead to people hoarding a little more and there will be even less options on the waiver wire. but oh man would it be nice to have an extra slot right now. maybe we can add a IR slot?

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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Sonic » Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:37 pm

IR Slot, yes. General purpose slot, no.

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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Jif » Sun Oct 25, 2015 8:48 pm

Bacon wrote:maybe by just one spot . though since we only have 10 people it will lead to people hoarding a little more and there will be even less options on the waiver wire. but oh man would it be nice to have an extra slot right now. maybe we can add a IR slot?

i agree with bacon and sonic. id love an extra slot but only for ir.

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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Harness » Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:21 pm

Jif wrote:
Bacon wrote:maybe by just one spot . though since we only have 10 people it will lead to people hoarding a little more and there will be even less options on the waiver wire. but oh man would it be nice to have an extra slot right now. maybe we can add a IR slot?

i agree with bacon and sonic. id love an extra slot but only for ir.



I just looked at the free agent market and there is no way I can agree with adding another slot on everyone's team. Go to the available players list and remove another 10 players from it. There would be no way to improve your roster throughout the season.
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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Jif » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:53 pm

Harness wrote:
Jif wrote:
Bacon wrote:maybe by just one spot . though since we only have 10 people it will lead to people hoarding a little more and there will be even less options on the waiver wire. but oh man would it be nice to have an extra slot right now. maybe we can add a IR slot?

i agree with bacon and sonic. id love an extra slot but only for ir.



I just looked at the free agent market and there is no way I can agree with adding another slot on everyone's team. Go to the available players list and remove another 10 players from it. There would be no way to improve your roster throughout the season.


right now is not when to evaluate the FA market. most of the quality FAs have already been sorted out. Our league structure strongly discourages trading early in the season and almost requires it later in the season.

There's not enough room on our rosters to stash players long term, so early in the season there's a ton of FA shuffling on a weekly basis. The first 4-6 weeks of a season are about finding the big impact free agents- rookies, vets returning from injury, surprises, etc. In leagues with deeper benches these players would have been claimed and stashed until they proved productive or not, while in our league they sit available until their breakout game. This means we don't need to trade to find quality replacements for a good portion of the season and that we dont need to take many chances on boom or bust stashes.

Later in the season trades become necessary because there's very limited free agent options by this point and not enough room to stash an injury for more than a few weeks. Also because we didn't have room to stash that longshot rookie or vet in the first few weeks.

I like the idea of an injury bench slot. By this time of the season there arent many viable FA options but at least youd have the option of also keeping a starter for when/if they return

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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Darkfoxx » Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:58 am

Good discussion so far, fellas. I'm also back from my 3 week absence. Rejoice!

We only had 6 total responses on the poll (counting myself). Was hoping to get closer to 100%, but the responses I did get were somewhat useful.

I checked on the Injured Reserve (IR) slot, and Yahoo does have that feature. I'm all for adding 1 IR slot, since there are very few players on IR any given season that would even be worth stashing (maybe 4-5 players, tops). I'll add the poll option for this feature request on the "end of the season" poll.
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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Sonic » Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:50 am

I don't remember what I said in the poll, but I do think players should be locked at the start of their game. Sunday is gsd day, can't watch football all day.

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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Darkfoxx » Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:35 am

Sonic wrote:I don't remember what I said in the poll

I'm going to post the responses below, anonymized, of course. Although you can probably figure out mine and one other.

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Personally (not as the commish), I like our current system since it promotes activity...i.e. you should be watching the games so that you can quickly snap up a player if they do great during a game. Early bird gets the worm sort of thing.

Now, since I want to be fair to all, if we have a consensus on this...I am willing to implement one of these systems. I think the best option for our league is Game Time waivers.


Don't care


I would prefer the game time waiver ONLY IF all the players go OFF waivers at the same time (Tuesday). On top of this, waiver order would have to be changed to be the inverse of standing each week and roll throughout the week.


I like the current system. I don't see anything wrong or better about using the sun-Tuesday waiver system. Players should be available at all times and that's part of the nature of the game of fantasy football. It comes down to whether you're watching games on Sunday and doing research and putting in the effort or if you're just casually playing. I don't think it's fair to he people doing work (son) that they should be penalized by having to wait for Tuesday when some jo schmo who doesn't really follow all the teams and injuries and sleepers and studs and duds can just read one article and be waiver 1 and pick up some top player. It comes down to whether the guy is putting the effort in and if he is he should be rewarded for it. This waiver system penalizes instead of rewarding.


I prefer Sunday-Tuesday or Game Time. Sunday-Tues is a solid middle ground between no waiver claims needed and Continuous (which is very time consuming and advanced).

First game of the week is HORRIBLE because then all Free Agents go on waivers Thursday at 8pm (TNF) and won't come off until Wednesday morning. That leaves 2 total days for unclaimed free agent claims and completely prevents anyone from adding players Sunday morning. Under this system if, at 10pm Thursday, you want to add a player playing on Sunday you'd have to place a waiver claim for him and he wouldn't be available until the NEXT Sunday, 10 days later.


Don't care.

But not continuous or first game of the week.
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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Darkfoxx » Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:35 pm

Important:

I want everyone to review our current scoring system and settings and post any changes you'd like to vote on at the end of the season. I've already compiled a few in the 1st post of this thread (please check before posting).

The deadline for any suggested changes is December 28th, 2015.

Also to note: Any responses as "don't care" or "doesn't matter" or similar on the exit poll will default to agreeing with the current settings as opposed to wanting a change. If you really do care, please pick an appropriate option.

For example, in the waiver system change results on the midseason poll...out of 6 poll responses, only 2 were actually interested in changing the current system. To initiate a change in settings, we need over 51% agreement.
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