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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Bacon » Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:26 am

Fist of the eskimo wrote:
Bacon wrote:So can we get a discussion on the W/T spot? I would really like to make this a true flex spot next year and do RB/WR/TE. I know fox said the league was set up to only have to RB but I just don't see it with the scoring. Since TE have been relatively useless this season outside of the top 5 or so it just seems like another WR slot since chances are you aren't gonna have two top 5 TE.


I like this league for this reason that there isn't a third RB slot. I know it's a standard option in most leagues but if you want that then you can play in those leagues. Bumbs has explained this before that there is such little depth at RB where most teams aren't using 3-4 running backs like they use wide outs. If you have the slot then you're forcing people to roster more running backs on their bench and taking some huge depth into teams where you might be taking RB3 or RB4.

I agree that a third RB slot wouldn't be good but that's why we should make it optional and have the Flex be a RB/WR/TE. You can roster another RB if you want to use him here. You can roster another WR if you want use him here. You can roster another TE if you want to use him here.

I see the flex spot as a spot were you can play the best of your backups. If the best of your backups is a RB then you should be able to play him. Right now no one in our league has a TE in W/T there were only 3 times a TE was in that slot for a week (all by jif!) meaning we have been playing in essentially a 3 WR league.

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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Fist of the eskimo » Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:36 pm

Bacon wrote:meaning we have been playing in essentially a 3 WR league.



And I don't see the problem with that.

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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Bacon » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:50 pm

sure but it seems to punish people for rostering more than 3 RB's

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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Sonic » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:47 am

Another League (10man) I play is the following:

QB
WR x3
RB x2
TE
Flex (WR/RB/TE)
K
DEF

ALL the real WRs & RBs are gone. Have to waiver wire the "boom or bust" players every week. Makes it a real gamble. Early season I rotated 4 WRs, later season I've switched to 3 RBs due to waiver injury pickups.

Not a fan TBH.

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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Bacon » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:05 am

That's a lot of slots. There wouldn't be anything on the waiver wire. I'm saying that we should do:

1 QB
2 WR
2 RB
1 TE
1 Flex (WR, RB, TE)
1 K
1 Def

This would only change the types of positions on the waiver wire, not how many people would be there. It would not change the points significantly since, as far as I can tell, the league favors WR more than RB.

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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Darkfoxx » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:34 am

Bacon wrote:This would only change the types of positions on the waiver wire, not how many people would be there. It would not change the points significantly since, as far as I can tell, the league favors WR more than RB.

WRs get slightly more points in our league, yes. We may tweak the bonuses a bit to even things out so that RBs get a slight uptick and WRs get slightly less points. There are far more point-producing WRs than RBs, that's just a fact.

I don't know if changing the W/T to a Flex spot would be best, but we can throw it up for vote and see. There doesn't seem to be a lot of support for it though.

I'm attaching two images, both showing the top 10 players in their position.

The RB slot is so thin that you have Thomas Rawls in the top 10, who has only really played 5 or 6 full games.
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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Sonic » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:20 am

With many teams doing running by committee, I hate it coming down to which back the OC puts in on a goal-line play. Flex stay as WR/TE, which unless you own Gronk, is just a WR slot.

OR

Change Flex to TE/RB
& remove the TE slot
& add a WR slot.
(QB, WR x3, RB x2, Flex (TE/RB), K, Def

Then if you have Gronk, or one of the maybe 1-2 others worth having, you can use them. Else a boom or bust RB, which is the same as the rest of the TEs.

If we want to change the slots, I'd add a QB slot before another RB slot... At least of the 32 of those, there are 20 who aren't terrible.

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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Bacon » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:09 pm

Darkfoxx wrote:WRs get slightly more points in our league, yes. We may tweak the bonuses a bit to even things out so that RBs get a slight uptick and WRs get slightly less points. There are far more point-producing WRs than RBs, that's just a fact.

Could we just make it so the scoring is even?

Sonic wrote:With many teams doing running by committee, I hate it coming down to which back the OC puts in on a goal-line play. Flex stay as WR/TE, which unless you own Gronk, is just a WR slot.

I'm not really asking for a 3 RB 2 WR league. I'm just asking for the option of starting a RB over a WR when my flex player gets injured. If you are scared of RBBC, then just start a WR in your flex. Let me take a gamble and start a RB.

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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Darkfoxx » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:03 am

Changing gears for a second, I want to know what you guys thought about this for next year...

In order to keep people interested until the end, I was thinking about adding a prize for the consolation playoff bracket winner. This way, players who don't make the championship bracket still have something to fight for and don't give up.

For this season, the prize distribution is:

1st = $120
2nd = $60
3rd = $20

If we modify this slightly, whilst keeping the $20 buy-in, we could do something like this:

1st = $110
2nd = $55
3rd = $25
Consolation bracket winner = $10
(Optional: consolation winner gets a $10 "credit" for next year's buy-in instead. Basically the consolation winner would pay %50 of the buy-in, but receives no actual money)

In this scenario, the consolation bracket winner gets half their money back which is way better than losing it all!

Also, we could do something like this:

1st = $100
2nd = $50
3rd = $30
Consolation bracket winner = $20

My issue with this scenario is that the prize amounts are diminished more considerably and thus I think it would require raising the buy-in. Also, 3rd place is gettin' shafted on the prize money a bit since you could suck ass all year and still get $20 by winning consolation.

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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Bacon » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:56 pm

It needs to happen. I would do $10 for consolation.

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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Harness » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:35 pm

You want to pay people for sucking balls all year? I wouldn't even take the money. If you wanted to give me money for coming in seventh place, I would be very insulted.

Guys, this isn't rocket science or a government were running here. Keep it simple! First, second and third places win money, THAT'S IT! You didn't win? Good luck next year!
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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Bacon » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:36 pm

Harness wrote:You want to pay people for sucking balls all year? I wouldn't even take the money. If you wanted to give me money for coming in seventh place, I would be very insulted.

Guys, this isn't rocket science or a government were running here. Keep it simple! First, second and third places win money, THAT'S IT! You didn't win? Good luck next year!

can we really expect someone who is out of playoff contention to continue to actually play?

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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Darkfoxx » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:30 am

Bacon wrote:can we really expect someone who is out of playoff contention to continue to actually play?

Everyone has in past years...for the most part. Maybe not DUMPHEAP?

I don't care either way. I've been in both the playoff and the consolation brackets many, many times and I continue to play every week as if I'm in the championship matchup. It's all about how much you care about your team.

I brought up the issue because it was discussed early in the season and I want to give everyone a voice. It'll go up for vote and it may or may not win.

Also instead of actual money, I thought the $10 credit idea was interesting. It encourages the person to return.
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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Harness » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:11 pm

Darkfoxx wrote:
Bacon wrote:can we really expect someone who is out of playoff contention to continue to actually play?

Everyone has in past years...for the most part. Maybe not DUMPHEAP?

I don't care either way. I've been in both the playoff and the consolation brackets many, many times and I continue to play every week as if I'm in the championship matchup. It's all about how much you care about your team.

I brought up the issue because it was discussed early in the season and I want to give everyone a voice. It'll go up for vote and it may or may not win.

Also instead of actual money, I thought the $10 credit idea was interesting. It encourages the person to return.


Honestly, I cant even understand why this idea is even raised. Put it to a vote? That's an absolute joke to me and should not even be open to discussion. This is a competition between grown ass men and not some little league bullshit where you get a prize just for showing up.
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Re: Fantasy Football 2015

Postby Darkfoxx » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:32 am

Harness wrote:This is a competition between grown ass men and not some little league bullshit where you get a prize just for showing up.

I'm not disagreeing with you.

I'll be tabling this issue indefinitely for the moment.
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