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our government was created with the sole purposed of keeping religion out of any decision making, and while it will, of course, come to influence people's lifes and therefore laws, that doesnt mean that laws should be created on religious principles. hence: gay marriage. taking away a right for no reason outside of religion. theres something wrong here. protect your religion in the church.
second: im pro, erm, stuff. killing people is bad. taking away someone elses rights is bad. my opinion has been this: just because its has biological movement (ie the heartbeat) doesnt make it living. people in comas are 'living' by that definition, but do they have a say in what happens to them? no. might they at some point down the road? potentially, who knows. who gets the decision to pull the plug? the family. you hope that they are informed enough and its a tough decision, but it happens. a lot of the time due to the lack of ability to care for that person.
how does that tie into the baby? well, without a way of expressing consciousness, who gets to make the call? the mother. all you can do is hope that shes got the scruples to make the right choice, since there is no way anybody else unrelated should have any say in the matter.
i like to take a personal view as well: birth control isnt perfect, even when used responsibly. if gabi were to get pregnant by some fluke in probability, if we decided to keep the kid, itd end our lives, no question asked. i can barely afford to live when i do, a kid would push me into absolute destitution. wed be stuck, no chance to finish our careers, no chance to save any money. even if we had the kid and put it up for adoption, wed be back about a good year dealing with the pregnancy which, once again, i couldnt afford. of course itd be an informed decision, and not made lightly, but itd be necessary for the health and well being of gabi and i. are you really willing to take peoples lives away in exchange for stopping the few people that abuse the system?
our government was created with the sole purposed of keeping religion out of any decision making, and while it will, of course, come to influence people's lifes and therefore laws, that doesnt mean that laws should be created on religious principles. hence: gay marriage. taking away a right for no reason outside of religion. theres something wrong here. protect your religion in the church.
second: im pro, erm, stuff. killing people is bad. taking away someone elses rights is bad. my opinion has been this: just because its has biological movement (ie the heartbeat) doesnt make it living. people in comas are 'living' by that definition, but do they have a say in what happens to them? no. might they at some point down the road? potentially, who knows. who gets the decision to pull the plug? the family. you hope that they are informed enough and its a tough decision, but it happens. a lot of the time due to the lack of ability to care for that person.
how does that tie into the baby? well, without a way of expressing consciousness, who gets to make the call? the mother. all you can do is hope that shes got the scruples to make the right choice, since there is no way anybody else unrelated should have any say in the matter.
i like to take a personal view as well: birth control isnt perfect, even when used responsibly. if gabi were to get pregnant by some fluke in probability, if we decided to keep the kid, itd end our lives, no question asked. i can barely afford to live when i do, a kid would push me into absolute destitution. wed be stuck, no chance to finish our careers, no chance to save any money. even if we had the kid and put it up for adoption, wed be back about a good year dealing with the pregnancy which, once again, i couldnt afford. of course itd be an informed decision, and not made lightly, but itd be necessary for the health and well being of gabi and i. are you really willing to take peoples lives away in exchange for stopping the few people that abuse the system?
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I type a bunch of shit then people go fuk themselves
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